Rhetoric-Ancient Greek Rhetoric i

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Rhetoric-Ancient Greek Rhetoric i
2013-10-06 19:24:33
Ancient Greek Rhetoric

Rhetoric Exam 1 Part 2 Ancient Greek Rhetoric I
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  1. The Rhetorical Situation

    *Refer to Rhetoric intro for more detail on this.
    • Exigence- motivation for the rhetor to speak, something that can be changed through rhetoric
    • Audience-they must be able to affect the change
    • Constraints-what is at your disposal to make a point
  2. The Sophists
    • Paid teachers & logographers
    • If they're paid, does that make them less reputable/credible?
    • It's not the fact that they're teachers that makes them less credible, but the incentive to come up with more to teach in order to make more money.
    • Logographer: someone who writes speeches. No sense of authenticity because however they spun it was the right side. This is where a lot of sophist criticism comes from.
    • Speech > writing
    • Goal: Eliciting reaction
    • Means: Style-They would be really dramatic and tap into human emotion to persuade them one way or another, to elicit a reaction.
    • Kairos: Fit timing for your speech-EX: If you need to borrow moms car you ask when she is in a good mood not after a fight.
  3. Isocrates
    • Rhetoric and civic leadership
    • Rhetorical education-cultivated character & natural talent; strong character is essential
    • Ethos of Rhetoric
    • Therapeai: healing the community
    • Douleia: serving the community
    • Melete: caring for the community
    • Style matters- style is an important way to get the message across.
  4. Ethos of Rhetoric
    • Therapeai:healing the community
    • Douleia: serving the community
    • Melete: caring for the community
    • *Isocrates
  5. "Against the Sophists"
    • By Isocrates
    • A document used as an advertisement to bring in new students.
    • Universal v. contextual principles
    • The problem with the sophists: claims that they were taking advantage of them (probably to get them to his school). He was considered a sophist but separated himself from them.
    • Elements for rhetorical success:
    • Natural Ability
    • Practice
    • General Principles

    • Education: it's limits and values
    • According to Isocrates, morality is essential in the employment of rhetoric.
    • The sophists were criticized for loose morals.
  6. Elements for rhetorical success
    • Natural Ability
    • Practice: constructing speeches for certain people. He believed that invention/innovation was important.
    • General Principles
    • Has the idea that virtue isn't teachable (elitist)
    • No amount of education will change you into a good person. Someone must have an amount of good in them that can be fostered.
  7. Plato & His Work
    • Socrates -> Plato -> Aristotle
    • Plato v. Sophists:
    • (objectivism v. relativism)
    • Sophists spun things in their favor
    • Plato believed in objectivity and facts
    • dialectic (idea of midwife and helping people labor for the truth) v. rhetoric
    • Noumenal world: place beyond physical reality where perfect forums exist

    • A priori knowledge: true idea that exists in our souls to be recovered.
    • The idea that inside of us is the truth that we must seek out.
    • "The truth should speak for itself" -Plato
    • Didn't like Rhetoric-opposed it.
  8. Plato's a fan v. not a fan
    • Fan:
    • Dialectic
    • Objective truths
    • Reason
    • Permanence
    • Art
    • Inquiry

    • Not a Fan:
    • Sophistic Rhetoric
    • Relativism, skepticism
    • The Senses, Emotion
    • Shiftiness
    • Flattery
    • Persuasion